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Re: Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/02/13 11:45 pm | #182
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I beat it yesterday and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. Not sure if I'm going to go through it again right away or not, either. :/
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The ending after the credits where you're back in Booker's apartment didn't seem like a hopeful ending to me or anything like that. Every time Booker died or almost died in the game, he was brought back to that point in his life. So to me that just seemed like his afterlife.
The whole point of killing Booker was to prevent Comstock from happening. The Booker you play as through the entire game never turned into Comstock, though. So that moment should be read more as every Elizabeth from every possible reality killing every Booker from every reality. There could be no Booker after that point, because if one survived and stayed Booker, in another reality one would survive and become Comstock. What Elizabeth did at that point was ensure that in no reality did Booker live past that point. That's why all the other Elizabeths disappeared- because her past no longer forked at that point in Booker's life.
I mean, that's just how I interpreted it, but that's the only possible way I can see even a point in killing Booker to begin with and any kind of resolution because of the time travel/ alternate reality story.
A highlander dlc would be fun.... Travel from reality to reality killing other Bookers... There can be only one!!!
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This is why I kind of hate the ending, but also think it's kind of brilliant. Seriously, if that's how you view that ending as, then to you that's the "true" ending. But I think that there sooooo many ways to interpret the ending and the things that happened in the game that a lot of people's theories about the ending could also be true.
I've read many theories about how people view the ending and read the clues that lead them to there theories. Depending on how you personally view the ending and which ways you interpret the clues there can be multiple endings that could be the "true" ending, it just all depends on how a particular person views the things that happened in the game. I have a few theories about the end, but I'm not sure which one I think is true since I can see all of them being true, it all comes down to which way I choose to view things. I'm kind of a person that like a more straight forward ending (I feel that I will forever be searching for what I feel is the ending truly means), but I can see way some people love this ending.
You summed it up well sir.
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 2:01 am | #183
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if booker/comstock dies at that point in time though, doesn't elizabeth also cease to exist? since the main difference is booker had her, and comstock wanted a child, so she essentially killed off herself too.
m i rite
Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 4:52 am | #184
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if booker/comstock dies at that point in time though, doesn't elizabeth also cease to exist? since the main difference is booker had her, and comstock wanted a child, so she essentially killed off herself too.
m i rite
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I was thinking the same thing right as I finished the game the ending was almost information overload, regardless I was blown away by the whole game and the ending.
Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 6:01 am | #185
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if booker/comstock dies at that point in time though, doesn't elizabeth also cease to exist? since the main difference is booker had her, and comstock wanted a child, so she essentially killed off herself too.
m i rite
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Idk- was she born at that point? I assumed she was, but if not then yeah that could be a problem.
Re: Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 11:32 am | #186
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if booker/comstock dies at that point in time though, doesn't elizabeth also cease to exist? since the main difference is booker had her, and comstock wanted a child, so she essentially killed off herself too.
m i rite
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Idk- was she born at that point? I assumed she was, but if not then yeah that could be a problem.
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she wasn't, that's why comstock had to take her from booker, since comstock became infertile and couldn't have a child of his own, so they took her to wipe away the debt, which means even the last Elizabeth should of disappeared.
zomg plothole!
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 12:40 pm | #187
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I haven't been able to read anything in this thread since March 30th due to all the spoilers, but I am glad you all have used the spoiler warning. I need to hurry up and finish this!
Re: Re: Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 3:58 pm | #188
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Idk- was she born at that point? I assumed she was, but if not then yeah that could be a problem.
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she wasn't, that's why comstock had to take her from booker, since comstock became infertile and couldn't have a child of his own, so they took her to wipe away the debt, which means even the last Elizabeth should of disappeared.
zomg plothole!
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Yeah, you're right- looks like the baptism/failed baptism was the year before Anna was born.
And the thing about the last Elizabeth is that she isn't our Elizabeth. Because when he sees her, Booker says:
So who exactly is the Elizabeth left? And even if the people who say she only killed the Booker who turned into Comstock and the other Booker survives are right (which I disagree with because she flat out says they're smothering Comstock
, so not just the one who chose the baptism, but both) there's no Elizabeth after that, just Anna. And she wouldn't have powers, since Comstock taking her and her losing her finger is what caused her to have powers. So no matter what, all Elizabeths should have disappeared.
Idk- some of this just seems like lazy story telling because they didn't want to patch their holes...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BioShock Infinite
04/03/13 4:05 pm | #189
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she wasn't, that's why comstock had to take her from booker, since comstock became infertile and couldn't have a child of his own, so they took her to wipe away the debt, which means even the last Elizabeth should of disappeared.
zomg plothole!
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Yeah, you're right- looks like the baptism/failed baptism was the year before Anna was born.
And the thing about the last Elizabeth is that she isn't our Elizabeth. Because when he sees her, Booker says:
So who exactly is the Elizabeth left? And even if the people who say she only killed the Booker who turned into Comstock and the other Booker survives are right (which I disagree with because she flat out says they're smothering Comstock
, so not just the one who chose the baptism, but both) there's no Elizabeth after that, just Anna. And she wouldn't have powers, since Comstock taking her and her losing her finger is what caused her to have powers. So no matter what, all Elizabeths should have disappeared.
Idk- some of this just seems like lazy story telling because they didn't want to patch their holes...
I agree, that's the one thing bothering me.
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/04/13 5:20 pm | #190
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I haven't played yet so I'm not reading any spoilers, I just wanted to be part of the conversation.
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Re: BioShock Infinite
04/04/13 9:20 pm | #191
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Finally got around to play this a little. Got through about 6 chapters so far. Very impressed to say the least, hasn't let me down yet. I find that the music is one of the most interesting things to me so far, I think its great. Reminds me a lot of the music they had in the movie "There Will Be Blood".
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/05/13 7:54 am | #192
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Just beat the game! My mind exploded. I sat here and read all the theories you guys wrote about, now that I can actually read them lol. I like them all. Dont really know where to stand overall. So many possibilities... 
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/07/13 4:19 am | #193
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Just finished it. This game was absolutely amazing!!
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I was mind blown like 5 times at the end. I thought it was the ending then something else happened. I think this story topped the first Bioshock's story. I knew from the very beginning going into the lighthouse that they were gonna connect this to Rapture somehow (Rapture below the lighthouse, Columbia above).
I agree with most of the theories that have been posted here now that I've had a chance to read all of em but I think that scene after the credits is gonna leave some room for Irrational to resolve and explain everything in DLC or another Bioshock that ties to it.
Also a funny thing I thought of at the very beginning of the game. When I got up to the lighthouse and rung the 3 bells and the clouds turned red and I heard that foghorn go off, I thought I was about to be attacked by the tripods from War of the Worlds cuz that sound was very similar, lol.
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/07/13 7:29 am | #194
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1999 mode is absolutely ridiculous! I have about 8 hours in so far and haven't even got
Shock Jockey yet.
Shock Jockey yet.
Re: BioShock Infinite
04/07/13 1:35 pm | #195
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i saw a video of bioshock 1 that has the songbird noise in the background when you're walking around rapture, how interconnected it is, is just amazing.
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