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I think all those JRPGS and turn base whatever the fuck games SUCK! Who the fuck thought thought it was good idea to make a game where you take turns attacking each other? The ONLY acceptation is Pokemon. I know some people may crucify me for this lol... but its just how I feel.

I also think Emma Stone is not hot.. she looks like a frog or some shit. Dont hurt me, Mudkip.



1) exception
2) Emma stone looks like an alien
3) why can't people dislike a game style without saying the style sucks? I hate shooters. I think it's the worst genre and would be happy never playing another. But that doesn't mean it SUCKS, it means I recognize that it's not for me (I don't have the reflexes or motor skills to enjoy them and I get motion sick). See how I can dislike something without negating the opinions of fans and making it into a personal attack?



Fixed to *exception*, thanks... lol one of my many typos/wrong word choices I always make :(


Its just my opinion. I don't like JRPG turn based type games. They just blow, and thats my opinion. I'm not killing people who like them. If you like them then you like them, I dont care lol. I dont get how its a personal attack.
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1) exception
2) Emma stone looks like an alien
3) why can't people dislike a game style without saying the style sucks? I hate shooters. I think it's the worst genre and would be happy never playing another. But that doesn't mean it SUCKS, it means I recognize that it's not for me (I don't have the reflexes or motor skills to enjoy them and I get motion sick). See how I can dislike something without negating the opinions of fans and making it into a personal attack?



Fixed to *exception*, thanks... lol one of my many typos/wrong word choices I always make :(


Its just my opinion. I don't like JRPG turn based type games. They just blow, and thats my opinion. I'm not killing people who like them. If you like them then you like them, I dont care lol. I dont get how its a personal attack.



Because they don't BLOW- you just don't like them.

If I say "I hate shooters" that's my opinion.

If I say "shooters are the worst games and whoever decided to make these games had a terrible idea," that's inferring that a) the games shouldn't be made and/or b) people who enjoy them like bad things (or things that blow).

Wording matters as far as giving offense.
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People do this with music more than anything else. Hate on a specific band but you dislike the entire genre they play. Makes sense right?



I have to disagree with you on this one......I think if you've fairly given a genre a chance then you can say its trash as a whole....I've given a lot of metal music a fair shot & it all sounds like shit to me no matter what band/group/"artist"



That's just you disliking metal. Were talking about giving a objective opinion on specific games/bands. You can't do that if your bias.


For example I hate Bluegrass but I can't say if a specific singer/group are bad because to me they all sound equally like nails on a chalkboard.
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I have to disagree with you on this one......I think if you've fairly given a genre a chance then you can say its trash as a whole....I've given a lot of metal music a fair shot & it all sounds like shit to me no matter what band/group/"artist"



That's just you disliking metal. Were talking about giving a objective opinion on specific games/bands. You can't do that if your bias.


For example I hate Bluegrass but I can't say if a specific singer/group are bad because to me they all sound equally like nails on a chalkboard.



Yes- exactly!
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Fixed to *exception*, thanks... lol one of my many typos/wrong word choices I always make :(


Its just my opinion. I don't like JRPG turn based type games. They just blow, and thats my opinion. I'm not killing people who like them. If you like them then you like them, I dont care lol. I dont get how its a personal attack.



Because they don't BLOW- you just don't like them.

If I say "I hate shooters" that's my opinion.

If I say "shooters are the worst games and whoever decided to make these games had a terrible idea," that's inferring that a) the games shouldn't be made and/or b) people who enjoy them like bad things (or things that blow).

Wording matters as far as giving offense.



But they do BLOW... to me, and saying you think shooters suck is just as much an opinion as saying you hate shooters in my book.

I get what you mean and all, but how you choose to react to something also matters as far being offended. I love baseball and when Snapple says baseball blows or insults it in other ways, I dont cry about it nor do I feel personally attacked for playing and liking what he thinks is a bad thing.

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I have to disagree with you on this one......I think if you've fairly given a genre a chance then you can say its trash as a whole....I've given a lot of metal music a fair shot & it all sounds like shit to me no matter what band/group/"artist"



That's just you disliking metal. Were talking about giving a objective opinion on specific games/bands. You can't do that if your bias.


For example I hate Bluegrass but I can't say if a specific singer/group are bad because to me they all sound equally like nails on a chalkboard.



Now a days when people, who have not listened to metal ever, listen to shitty emo screamo (hey that rhymes) they assume all Metal is like that and gives Metal a bad name. I myself prefer the old school metal like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Old Metallica, Slayer, Judas Priest etc.

Also I like Avenged Sevenfold :p
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Because they don't BLOW- you just don't like them.

If I say "I hate shooters" that's my opinion.

If I say "shooters are the worst games and whoever decided to make these games had a terrible idea," that's inferring that a) the games shouldn't be made and/or b) people who enjoy them like bad things (or things that blow).

Wording matters as far as giving offense.



But they do BLOW... to me, and saying you think shooters suck is just as much an opinion as saying you hate shooters in my book.

I get what you mean and all, but how you choose to react to something also matters as far being offended. I love baseball and when Snapple says baseball blows or insults it in other ways, I dont cry about it nor do I feel personally attacked for playing and liking what he thinks is a bad thing.




Nobody is crying about it or getting offended. Were just explaining the different between a personal opinion and a objective one. One is based on taste and one is based on fact.

Edit: Also Avenged Sevenfold ROCKS!
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But they do BLOW... to me, and saying you think shooters suck is just as much an opinion as saying you hate shooters in my book.

I get what you mean and all, but how you choose to react to something also matters as far being offended. I love baseball and when Snapple says baseball blows or insults it in other ways, I dont cry about it nor do I feel personally attacked for playing and liking what he thinks is a bad thing.




Nobody is crying about it or getting offended. Were just explaining the different between a personal opinion and a objective one. One is based on taste and one is based on fact.

Edit: Also Avenged Sevenfold ROCKS!



What..? is there a point where I didnt know the difference? Saying that I think JRPGs blow is a personal opinion. I'm not pushing it across as a fact.
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Nobody is crying about it or getting offended. Were just explaining the different between a personal opinion and a objective one. One is based on taste and one is based on fact.

Edit: Also Avenged Sevenfold ROCKS!



What..? is there a point where I didnt know the difference? Saying that I think JRPGs blow is a personal opinion. I'm not pushing it across as a fact.



What I put in bold "you think shooters suck is just as much an opinion as saying you hate shooters in my book" just confused me. I thought you were saying there was no real difference. Just misunderstood you.


Edit: PS: Snapple only hates baseball because he never gets past first base.
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What..? is there a point where I didnt know the difference? Saying that I think JRPGs blow is a personal opinion. I'm not pushing it across as a fact.



What I put in bold "you think shooters suck is just as much an opinion as saying you hate shooters in my book" just confused me. I thought you were saying there was no real difference. Just misunderstood you.


Edit: PS: Snapple only hates baseball because he never gets past first base.



lol @ Snapple.

But I am saying they are the same thing. Am I wrong? "I think shooters suck" and "I hate shooters" can ultimately be the same thing to me. Like I said before, all this type of stuff is totally up to you on how you react to it. People "shit on" things I like all the time... I dont view them as personal attacks, but I guess I could if I wanted to. If I started saying people who like so and so are this and that, then yeah those are attacks. Idk... lol if I'm wrong I dont see it and I'm totally losing my fucks to give on the topic.
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I think there is a bit of a miscommunication here.

I can really see what both sides are saying, but you all are having a difficult time expressing what the problem is. I don't think that when Detroit says something sucks, he automatically has presented his opinion as fact. That isn't what makes a statement like that offensive.

He has used "sucks," to relay his distaste. For him, "this sucks," "I hate this," and "I don't like this," are all interchangeable and convey the same thing exactly.

The problem here is that not everyone interprets them the same. "Sucks," is short for "sucks dick," or whatever it happens to suck. Therefore the connotation for "sucks," is very aggressive and negative to the point where it really comes off as an insult to anyone happens to disagree with the opinion. In example, when Detroit says, "JRPGs suck," it can be interpreted by some to mean that he says JRPGs suck cock, in which case if you like JRPGs, you happen to like something that sucks cock. Fag. :p

Tone certainly matters! Especially when dealing with a subject that has been known to cause fights and arguments before. It is also helpful to keep in mind your audience! If my buddy drives a Mustang, I might say his car sucks. On the other hand, if someone I don't know pulls up in a Mustang, I might tell her that I don't care for them too much. You know that is a pretty big difference!

Just my 2 cents.
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