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That should be a new review score category, size of boners given 3/10, would not fap.

9/10, sweatpants recommended.



You are just the worst.


You would know :p

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... So for game designers to devalue a woman lead by throwing boobs in that are attached to her knees is disrespectful to women.

It's one thing in a game like doa volleyball lol, but when it's a serious game with a female protagonist who is supposed to be on par with any male lead of any rpg, it takes away from the idea that women are any more than just a bouncing pile of breast meat. I guess as a woman I just get sick of the message that a woman's worth can be measured by the size of the boners she gives. And it's pervasive in the video game culture.



Yeah you make some good points, cause they never have male protagonists with giant biceps, bulging pecs and rippling 6-pack abs. Plus, we all play video games to experience deep, plain characters discussing things like human rights, philosophy and feminism, not to use exaggerated caricatures to kill and blow shit up, right?

If only video game culture encouraged developers to make video games more like an interactive version of C-SPAN, sigh.
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Quote by Kat:


... So for game designers to devalue a woman lead by throwing boobs in that are attached to her knees is disrespectful to women.

It's one thing in a game like doa volleyball lol, but when it's a serious game with a female protagonist who is supposed to be on par with any male lead of any rpg, it takes away from the idea that women are any more than just a bouncing pile of breast meat. I guess as a woman I just get sick of the message that a woman's worth can be measured by the size of the boners she gives. And it's pervasive in the video game culture.



Yeah you make some good points, cause they never have male protagonists with giant biceps, bulging pecs and rippling 6-pack abs. Plus, we all play video games to experience deep, plain characters discussing things like human rights, philosophy and feminism, not to use exaggerated caricatures to kill and blow shit up, right?

If only video game culture encouraged developers to make video games more like an interactive version of C-SPAN, sigh.


I'm gonna spoiler this and warn- it's a rant. Lol.
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Straw man, Meta. I'm not talking about physical attractiveness or plots that include nonviolent attacks against real world issues. I'm talking about hyper-sexualization and the idea that women are essentially useless unless they're an 8 or above on Evol's boner rating scale.

Bulging biceps and pecs aren't the same as boobs flopping around as a character runs- they're the same as a trim waist and thin legs for a female. Yes, games usually portray characters in peak physical shape. But breasts larger than their heads have nothing to do with physical fitness nor does throwing the laws of physics and gravity into the garbage for a game.

Which is all fine and good for a game like DOA Xtreme 2 or whatever that stupid volleyball game is called. Or those idiotic girls in Rumble Roses. And even for the strippers in GTA games. Because those women are basically meat brought in to pull money from the wallets of the lions. I, personally, don't care about that any more than I care about a woman choosing to sell her body or become a stripper irl.

But I specifically said "a female protagonist who is supposed to be on par with any male lead," so let's use Cloud for an example- since that's essentially who Lightning is supposed to be. Originally he was pretty blocky, but even when they remade him for the spin off stuff, he was a pretty average looking/ sized guy. He certainly didn't have a 14" dong swinging around in his pants while he ran around saving the world. So my "respect" was to the game designers for keeping Lightning on that level, rather than having ridiculous breasts flopping around in her fan service outfits. Because women (and mostly girls) need to be shown that women are worth paying attention to even if they don't flash cleavage constantly.

Girls are NOT raised to think that, regardless of how their parents raise them. Because society says things like "Wow, Olivia Wilde- she's gorgeous AND intelligent" or "Oh, Jennifer Lawrence is so quirky- even though she's beautiful, she's just like us!" Dove ads that are supposed to make girls feel good about themselves no matter what they look like say "Everyone is beautiful" because (don't you know?) beauty is clearly the only aspect of a female that matters. Morgan Webb is funny and clever, but she's basically going to always be reduced to "the hot chick from xplay" which she won't mind, since it pays her bills, but she brought female objectification to a whole new industry, and filled gaming blogs and shows with more Olivia Munns than you can shake a stick at. And then they see shows like "King of Queens," "Everybody Loves Raymond," "The George Lopez Show" and basically every sitcom ever in the history of TV since Full House. Fat, ugly, awful guys have hot wives, and girls get "fairytale movies" where the ugly girl gets a makeover and THEN a guy finds her irresistible. Her personality is the same, though... And when girls grow up, they become women who see men make more than them, and the most attractive women rise to the top of the pile every time. This is why women get the reputation for being catty, gossipy and backstabbing...

Anyway, I'm rambling, and I could LITERALLY go on for hours (I've actually done it, in a blog post from 6 years ago, ;)) but the point I'm trying to make is that there are plenty of average looking guys in video games, and not many average women (not intentionally, anyway, although designers do miss the mark a lot). And I like boobs- I own a pair, they're great. I'm a fan of several other women's boobs as well-- but that doesn't change the fact that "jiggle physics" subconsciously takes away credibility from female main characters by reducing them to a character who could easily be replaced by a sexy bowl of jello.

So- yay. Go Square. Although I'd actually give Tri-Ace the credit for the lack of over the top sexuality in the XIII series...

And if you don't think you're playing games that push specific agendas regarding human rights, equality, philosophy and politics, you might want to check again, sport.

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Great review here Kat, as always. You answered some questions I had about the game, mainly in how the timer affects gameplay and how it feels to have fetch quests be the meat and potatoes rather than grinding random encounters.

You also confirmed some feelings I was having after playing the demo, which I wasn't sure about, so now I know I definitely do want to play the game, just not necessarily right now and at $60.

Also, I like that you enjoy Lightning's rack but I don't understand your "respect" on it--are you saying you like the fact that they didn't put in breast physics at all, or are you just saying DoA and the like over do it? 'cause I could agree with that. I feel like some jiggle physics are fun, but it's easy to go overboard and made it weird and boner-killing.



Lol I enjoy a good rack as much as the next person, but in this case, I respect the fact that they left the physics out of this game. It doesn't fit with the character of Lightning or the seriousness of the plot. If you're a woman and you're doing anything requiring physical activity, you strap the girls in tight because it's not all about appearances. So for game designers to devalue a woman lead by throwing boobs in that are attached to her knees is disrespectful to women. Ashley Riot's buttless chaps weren't fan service after all.

It's one thing in a game like doa volleyball lol, but when it's a serious game with a female protagonist who is supposed to be on par with any male lead of any rpg, it takes away from the idea that women are any more than just a bouncing pile of breast meat. I guess as a woman I just get sick of the message that a woman's worth can be measured by the size of the boners she gives. And it's pervasive in the video game culture.









Thanks Square-Enix for keeping fan service down to a minimum. Especially the chaps.

(Physics or no physics none of this fit the character)
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^ I know, I did mention her fan service outfits. They don't fit her at all, character-wise, but it's a japanese game, so idk...

I haven't come across any of those outfits though. Just a lot of 70s pant suits.
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^ I know, I did mention her fan service outfits. They don't fit her at all, character-wise, but it's a japanese game, so idk...

I haven't come across any of those outfits though. Just a lot of 70s pant suits.



They don't take female leads serious at all anymore. I mean just look at X-2. Yuna went from Mandy Moore to Lindsey Lohan quicker then all the haste spells in Spira.

Edit: I guess you need to work extra hard (Or fork over cash) to unlock the skanky stuff. They needed to find more motivation to finish it then the crap story could provide.
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Hot damn that devil outfit is the coolest thing since canned bread. I wonder how hard it is to get it and the Cloud outfit? Although I think maybe the Cloud outfit was pre-order bonus?
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