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Archived: Article Discussion: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

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04/08/13 7:38 pm | #16

Quote by The Snapple Cap:

Lucas arts closing is awful, Star Wars 1313 and front assault have been cancelled because of it. and just read another article someone confirmin always online, such a stupid idea!!!!

it's like they want it to be a computer!! apparently gonna be 2 price models, $300 dollar one with a subscription and $500 dollar one, system is gonna be announced may 21st.

time to pre order ps4.

also I see this is what my Star Wars article got meshed into. (I'm assuming?)

good to know the date thanks

Re: Re: Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/08/13 7:45 pm | #17

Quote by heathkilljoy:

Quote by The Snapple Cap:

Lucas arts closing is awful, Star Wars 1313 and front assault have been cancelled because of it. and just read another article someone confirmin always online, such a stupid idea!!!!

it's like they want it to be a computer!! apparently gonna be 2 price models, $300 dollar one with a subscription and $500 dollar one, system is gonna be announced may 21st.

time to pre order ps4.

also I see this is what my Star Wars article got meshed into. (I'm assuming?)

good to know the date thanks

I'd have put up more info if I could find one single source that says anything without quoting Paul Thurrott. :/ As it is, multiple sites are posting what he says, then saying the other sites that do it are corroborating what he says. Journalism at its best...

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/08/13 7:58 pm | #18

Dude, fuck always on. Even though my devices are always online 99% of the time... its just not a great idea. Like it was mentioned, shit happens. Random internet drops, power outages, etc. I get what Microsoft is doing but I just don't think we are at a point in time where the internet is everywhere. We think it is but really there are tons of places and people that don't have it, or don't have good enough service to make such a device worth having. They have to know that this would kill sales right? I mean 40 million Xbox LIVE users versus their close to 80 million consoles sold. That is a lot of people possibly not buying their shit. They are trying to be PC, but shit, even a large amount of PC games can be palyed with no internet.

There is still lots of time to see what happens, but at this point it looks like PS4 is a winner. I mean IMO the 360 isnt even all that much better than the PS3 to begin with. The only thing it really has is Xbox LIVE. Xbox LIVE is better than PSN. Its way easier to communicate on Xbox. Easier to send and receive messages, you have party chat, and just an all around better online interface. Im sure Sony has recognized this. PS3 generally had better and more exclusives IMO. Just imagine if PS3 had party chat and had the level of easiness the xbox has with communication..... PS3 would have shit all over the 360. You'd have to bet Sony will make those upgrades/feature, and if so, they win. Especially if PSN remains free.

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Re: Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/08/13 8:35 pm | #20

Quote by xSirSwish:

Well-written, Kat! As we both know from Twitter, you know where I stand on this!

Time to start advertising the new site!

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Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/08/13 8:41 pm | #22

Next gen consoles just don't seem to be worth the money with all this tomfoolery I'm reading about. Time to buy s ps3 and go from there.

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/08/13 10:00 pm | #23

1st off, great read, not good news for us gamers, but great read.

If this proves true, I will not be making the step to next gen, even though I have internet, I do not like the idea of being forced into it. Kind of the same reason I switched from PS to Xbox to begin with, I didn't like how PS was forcing you to pay for the Blu Ray player.

This just makes having a huge back log of games like I do even better, as I won't feel the need to move up right away, lol.

Re: Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 12:49 am | #24

Quote by PureEvil x21:

This just makes having a huge back log of games like I do even better, as I won't feel the need to move up right away, lol.

Ditto.

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 6:30 am | #25

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 9:41 am | #26

I agree Kat, an always on internet connection is just foolish. I play mostly offline and some days I play xbox to escape reality and the last thing I want to do is talk to anyone. I love that I can "get together" with friends in different areas, but I'd like the option to be offline.

I hate that piracy prevention never fails to punish the legimate players and have no affect on piracy.

On video games and violence, the problem in America is that violence is publicly acceptable. A great example is the show Banshee, one of the most violent shows I've seen. Nearly every episode has a prolonged fight scene, which regularly ends in death, as well as a prolonged sex scene. I've seen so many forums complaining about the gratuitous sex scenes but none complaining about the violence. It's that mentality that is the problem, not video games. There can be 20 horrific deaths, and one pair of tits and somehow the only problem people have is that they don't want their kids to see the tits, because they are too young for sex.

Re: Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 10:12 am | #27

Quote by Circus:

Well, always on is what the media has said, it's not the way it has been described by the developers leaking info. So it's not as confusing as Penny Arcade would have you believe.

…it actually says, ‘must be Internet-connected to use,’ that’s in the notes.
-Paul Thurrott on the new Xbox console

It's just "mandatory connection to the Internet isn't as catchy as "always on," even though always on makes me think power vs online.

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 11:01 am | #28

Of course MS would want to keep track of the Dev kits, so the "must be connected to the internet" could just be for those pre-launch kits. The always on part is going to be like PS and Wii already do so if you are connected it will do back ground title updates and downloads automatically. At least this is what I think. People getting their panty's in a bunch over nothing.

Re: Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 11:53 am | #29

Quote by TK Chillin:

Of course MS would want to keep track of the Dev kits, so the "must be connected to the internet" could just be for those pre-launch kits. The always on part is going to be like PS and Wii already do so if you are connected it will do back ground title updates and downloads automatically. At least this is what I think. People getting their panty's in a bunch over nothing.

I considered that, but I think if that was the case, Microsoft would dispel the rumors. The only time people "neither confirm or deny" something is when it's true and it's bad. They'll be spinning it as a good thing when they do their product announcement, and until then they don't want to get tangled up in the debate. There's no company in the world that just lets consumers trash their product before release based on faulty information. Besides that, this rumor has been around since before developer kits went out... And we need to assume that game developers have a bit of intelligence and can figure out that a kit precaution (that would have existed in past consoles, I assume) isn't a final release spec.

My personal opinion is that this is true, as of right now. Now if the Diablo/Sim City crap combined with the public outcry makes them rethink this, then that's great. But given the fact that insiders have been publicly supportive of "mandatory connection" it seems a foregone conclusion that it is going to be a thing.

The fact is, as Evol pointed out to me earlier, Microsoft may just decide to alienate casual gamers altogether in favor of the "always on" people who will buy into their entire business model wholeheartedly. A $500 price tag kind of promises a departure from a casual gaming machine anyway. A $500 console that leads to a $400 phone, $2000 laptop, $800 tablet and $300 software upgrades (adding up to $4k) is going to be more profit than 40 consoles priced at $400 would be...

Re: "Always On" Internet- Deal With It? (Kat's Korner Ep. 6)

04/09/13 12:03 pm | #30

The people Microsoft have right now are bringing casual gamers into the fold. Any plans of a "hardcore" experience left with Peter Moore. The Xbox 360 has become an entertainment system. Nice article Kat

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