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Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 8:35 pm | #2266
Quote by The Snapple Cap:
wade is not even a top 10 player in the league right now. for reference Lebron/cp3/howard/Duncan/melo/Kobe/durant/rose/westbrook/harden are all better then wade, and that took 5 seconds to think up.
wade literally had Shaq in a year he got cheated out of an MVP the year he won, so lol no.
when the nba did its "top 50 players of all time list in 1996-1997" it had Scottie Pippen (one of only eleven active players to be picked) and was 36thz mind you on same list Jordan was in the 20's, and considering he had some playoff success after Jordan retired, it's universally accepted pippen is a top 30 player. he was the second beat defensive wing player in the league, and could guard 4 positions. he was like a poor mans version of Lebron James.
it's ridiculous that bulls fans think it was all role players when it clearly wasn't, Jordan had a shit ton of talent surrounding him.
oh and Lebron has the second longest winning streak in NBA history. now you may argue "defense is worse now then it was in the 90's" when that is statically false. on average teams scored more and the team that gave up most points in 90's was over 5 points higher then the last place defensive ranked team now.
so GG your argument.
I wish you COULD form your own opinions instead of citing what you read on wikipedia but you were 2,3,4 and 6 when the bulls were going all dynasty. Pippen is not top 30 (OF ALL TIME? Are you serious?) and yes I was a bulls fan after Jordan retired so I actually watched the games.
Oh and FYI.
Any greatest basketball player list that Michael Jordan's is in the 20's instead of top 5 is basically toilet paper. PS: I'd take wade over anyone on your list minus Lebron and Durant. PSS: Shaq was not exactly dominant that year...
Re: Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 8:56 pm | #2267
Quote by Vermillion Haze:
Quote by The Snapple Cap:
wade is not even a top 10 player in the league right now. for reference Lebron/cp3/howard/Duncan/melo/Kobe/durant/rose/westbrook/harden are all better then wade, and that took 5 seconds to think up.
wade literally had Shaq in a year he got cheated out of an MVP the year he won, so lol no.
when the nba did its "top 50 players of all time list in 1996-1997" it had Scottie Pippen (one of only eleven active players to be picked) and was 36thz mind you on same list Jordan was in the 20's, and considering he had some playoff success after Jordan retired, it's universally accepted pippen is a top 30 player. he was the second beat defensive wing player in the league, and could guard 4 positions. he was like a poor mans version of Lebron James.
it's ridiculous that bulls fans think it was all role players when it clearly wasn't, Jordan had a shit ton of talent surrounding him.
oh and Lebron has the second longest winning streak in NBA history. now you may argue "defense is worse now then it was in the 90's" when that is statically false. on average teams scored more and the team that gave up most points in 90's was over 5 points higher then the last place defensive ranked team now.
so GG your argument.
I wish you COULD form your own opinions instead of citing what you read on wikipedia but you were 2,3,4 and 6 when the bulls were going all dynasty. Pippen is not top 30 (OF ALL TIME? Are you serious?) and yes I was a bulls fan after Jordan retired so I actually watched the games.
Oh and FYI.
Any greatest basketball player list that Michael Jordan's is in the 20's instead of top 5 is basically toilet paper. PS: I'd take wade over anyone on your list minus Lebron and Durant. PSS: Shaq was not exactly dominant that year...
The bold is right on. There may be squabbles about who belongs where, but I don't know anyone who doesn't put him top 5. Especially back then. I mean seriously- in 96-97?
Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 9:09 pm | #2269
I think Snapple is now simply arguing for the sake of arguing. Lol @Jordan only in top 20.
Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 9:12 pm | #2270
Quote by xSirSwish:
Believe it or not, the Pistons were pretty damn good in the 90s too!
Grant Hill used to be a absolute beast. Double doubles all day
Edit: Found the dubious snapple "List". It was made in 1996 before the bulls won two more rings for a second three-peat. I guess 4 rings in 6 years is not impressive enough.
Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 9:38 pm | #2272
Snapples list is a joke. Patrick Ewing for example is 8 places better then Jordan. Larry Bird is 16 places better. Barkley is an astounding 20 places better. Apparently these writers forgot
Space Jam. The loony toons didin't kidnap Clyde Drexler but this list would make you believe they should have.
PS:
This is Paul Arizin...
He's 21 spots better lol
Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 9:52 pm | #2273
Man! Chris Bosh got great tickets to watch game 1! He must know somebody.
Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 10:02 pm | #2274
I eat cupcakes like Miami for breakfast. Ahhhhh. Go Bulls!!!
Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 10:17 pm | #2276
Quote by Minioger:
I think Snapple is now simply arguing for the sake of arguing. Lol @Jordan only in top 20.
I was only using it as a referrance, that even when he was currently in the league scottie pippen was considering one of the greatest players of all time. the list was done in the 1996-1997 season (like I said) of 50 best players and Scottie pippen made the list. obviously the list has changed to Jordan #1, but that doesn't discredit where they ranked them at that time, proving that by now Scottie pippen is easily within the top 30 of all time LIKE I SAID an was my original point of mentioning the list.
Re: Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 10:20 pm | #2277
Quote by Vermillion Haze:
Quote by The Snapple Cap:
wade is not even a top 10 player in the league right now. for reference Lebron/cp3/howard/Duncan/melo/Kobe/durant/rose/westbrook/harden are all better then wade, and that took 5 seconds to think up.
wade literally had Shaq in a year he got cheated out of an MVP the year he won, so lol no.
when the nba did its "top 50 players of all time list in 1996-1997" it had Scottie Pippen (one of only eleven active players to be picked) and was 36thz mind you on same list Jordan was in the 20's, and considering he had some playoff success after Jordan retired, it's universally accepted pippen is a top 30 player. he was the second beat defensive wing player in the league, and could guard 4 positions. he was like a poor mans version of Lebron James.
it's ridiculous that bulls fans think it was all role players when it clearly wasn't, Jordan had a shit ton of talent surrounding him.
oh and Lebron has the second longest winning streak in NBA history. now you may argue "defense is worse now then it was in the 90's" when that is statically false. on average teams scored more and the team that gave up most points in 90's was over 5 points higher then the last place defensive ranked team now.
so GG your argument.
I wish you COULD form your own opinions instead of citing what you read on wikipedia but you were 2,3,4 and 6 when the bulls were going all dynasty. Pippen is not top 30 (OF ALL TIME? Are you serious?) and yes I was a bulls fan after Jordan retired so I actually watched the games.
Oh and FYI.
Any greatest basketball player list that Michael Jordan's is in the 20's instead of top 5 is basically toilet paper. PS: I'd take wade over anyone on your list minus Lebron and Durant. PSS: Shaq was not exactly dominant that year...
And now I'm done, you can only be trolling at this point. you obviously only watch baseketball casually which is fine, but don't pretend you know basketball if you're going to take wade over Howard or cp3.
you obviously didn't see the year the list was made and couldn't comphrende why I would use it as a source, when I've explained it twice now.
Shaq should of won the MVP that year but Nash robbed him, lol at thinking he wasn't still dominant at that point.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 10:47 pm | #2278
Quote by The Snapple Cap:
Quote by Vermillion Haze:
I wish you COULD form your own opinions instead of citing what you read on wikipedia but you were 2,3,4 and 6 when the bulls were going all dynasty. Pippen is not top 30 (OF ALL TIME? Are you serious?) and yes I was a bulls fan after Jordan retired so I actually watched the games.
Oh and FYI. Any greatest basketball player list that Michael Jordan's is in the 20's instead of top 5 is basically toilet paper. PS: I'd take wade over anyone on your list minus Lebron and Durant. PSS: Shaq was not exactly dominant that year...
And now I'm done, you can only be trolling at this point. you obviously only watch baseketball casually which is fine, but don't pretend you know basketball if you're going to take wade over Howard or cp3.
you obviously didn't see the year the list was made and couldn't comphrende why I would use it as a source, when I've explained it twice now.
Shaq should of won the MVP that year but Nash robbed him, lol at thinking he wasn't still dominant at that point.
20 points and 9 rebounds per game vs 18.8 ppg, 1 stl. Not to mention Nash was the leader of HIS team while Shaq was on the downside of his career. Without Wade the heat don't make it out of the first round that season. (Or make the playoffs)
Edit: Also I'm picking wade based on what he's done so far in his career not this season specifically. Also Pippen still had half his career to go when that list was made and I don't think he would be in the top 30 now.
Re: Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 10:53 pm | #2279
Quote by Vermillion Haze:
Space Jam.
I can't even count how many times I've watched that awesome movie!
"That looks like something outta Star TRAK!"
HAHAHAHAHA
Re: Random Sports Talk
05/06/13 11:32 pm | #2280
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