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wilt chamberlain isn't anywhere close to being even in the top 10.


let's look at career accomplishments of Jordan in arguably the greatest era versus some of the best teams to ever enter the league

Jordan:
rookie of the year
1 time defensive player of the year
2 time nba slam dunk contest winner
3 time minutes leader of the year
3 time steals leader
3 time nba all star games MVP
5 time MVP for season
6 time finals MVP
6 finals wins
9 time all defensive selection
10 times scoring champion
11 times all nba selection
14 time NBA all star

like seriously there is just no comparison.
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wilt chamberlain isn't anywhere close to being even in the top 10.


let's look at career accomplishments of Jordan in arguably the greatest era versus some of the best teams to ever enter the league

Jordan:
rookie of the year
1 FIBA Championship Gold Medal
1 time defensive player of the year
2 time nba slam dunk contest winner
2 OLYMPIC Gold Medals
3 time minutes leader of the year
3 time steals leader
3 time nba all star games MVP
5 time MVP for season
6 time finals MVP
6 finals wins
9 time all defensive selection
10 times scoring champion
11 times all nba selection
14 time NBA all star
30.12 points per game- career regular season scoring average (NBA Record)
33.45 points per game- career playoff scoring average (NBA Record)


like seriously there is just no comparison.



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Lol i went to work for 7 hours and you guys all joined my side. Yay!!! Lol. Michael Jordan, unfortunately i was very young so I never got to see the greatness in action, but I am a Bulls fan. BTW love that meme Cosmo.
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Rightttttt because 0 rings compares to 5 rings any day :rolleyes:

I'd take Kobe over LeBron any day, and I hate them both :rofl:



I hate that argument, for one because half of the rings Kobe has one he wasn't even the best player on his team, it was Shaq. Kobe only one 1 ring w/o Shaq, and lebron is about to have his first when his first 5-6 seasons were with a cavaliers team who's second best player was 3rd string on the clippers this year, and 2 out of their prime big men in Shaq and Jamison.


if lebron had a solid team like the lakers in 200's like Kobe did he would be at 4-5 rings already, considering the playoff pushes he made by himself.

Excuses for a player and assholes are all the same, and by that logic are you saying now that LeBron is actually on the cusp of getting his FIRST title (with 2 other multiple time all stars supporting him) that THAT'S not equal to Kobe and Shaq being teamed up for their multiple title run? Wade only has one title (with Shaq there), Kobe has one title without Shaq yada yada and LeBron still has 0, either way, who cares? Kobe and MJ (the greatest ever IMO) will have more hardware than his cry baby ass regardless of who was and wasn't on their team for years to come. People still making excuses for LeBron when he has Wade and Bosh right there with him is ridiculous, he still hasn't gotten it done until maybe later tonight :rolleyes:

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I hate that argument, for one because half of the rings Kobe has one he wasn't even the best player on his team, it was Shaq. Kobe only one 1 ring w/o Shaq, and lebron is about to have his first when his first 5-6 seasons were with a cavaliers team who's second best player was 3rd string on the clippers this year, and 2 out of their prime big men in Shaq and Jamison.


if lebron had a solid team like the lakers in 200's like Kobe did he would be at 4-5 rings already, considering the playoff pushes he made by himself.

Excuses for a player and assholes are all the same, and by that logic are you saying now that LeBron is actually on the cusp of getting his FIRST title (with 2 other multiple time all stars supporting him) that THAT'S not equal to Kobe and Shaq being teamed up for their multiple title run? Wade only has one title (with Shaq there), Kobe has one title without Shaq yada yada and LeBron still has 0, either way, who cares? Kobe and MJ (the greatest ever IMO) will have more hardware than his cry baby ass regardless of who was and wasn't on their team for years to come. People still making excuses for LeBron when he has Wade and Bosh right there with him is ridiculous, he still hasn't gotten it done until maybe later tonight :rolleyes:




Honestly hate that their gonna win. The Thunder are still very young and i think i saw this coming, but I hate the Heat because they tried buying a championship and it looks like they're gonna actually get away with it....sucks.

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wilt chamberlain isn't anywhere close to being even in the top 10.


let's look at career accomplishments of Jordan in arguably the greatest era versus some of the best teams to ever enter the league

Jordan:
rookie of the year
1 FIBA Championship Gold Medal
1 time defensive player of the year
2 time nba slam dunk contest winner
2 OLYMPIC Gold Medals
3 time minutes leader of the year
3 time steals leader
3 time nba all star games MVP
5 time MVP for season
6 time finals MVP
6 finals wins
9 time all defensive selection
10 times scoring champion
11 times all nba selection
14 time NBA all star
30.12 points per game- career regular season scoring average (NBA Record)
33.45 points per game- career playoff scoring average (NBA Record)


like seriously there is just no comparison.



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I hate that argument, for one because half of the rings Kobe has one he wasn't even the best player on his team, it was Shaq. Kobe only one 1 ring w/o Shaq, and lebron is about to have his first when his first 5-6 seasons were with a cavaliers team who's second best player was 3rd string on the clippers this year, and 2 out of their prime big men in Shaq and Jamison.


if lebron had a solid team like the lakers in 200's like Kobe did he would be at 4-5 rings already, considering the playoff pushes he made by himself.

Excuses for a player and assholes are all the same, and by that logic are you saying now that LeBron is actually on the cusp of getting his FIRST title (with 2 other multiple time all stars supporting him) that THAT'S not equal to Kobe and Shaq being teamed up for their multiple title run? Wade only has one title (with Shaq there), Kobe has one title without Shaq yada yada and LeBron still has 0, either way, who cares? Kobe and MJ (the greatest ever IMO) will have more hardware than his cry baby ass regardless of who was and wasn't on their team for years to come. People still making excuses for LeBron when he has Wade and Bosh right there with him is ridiculous, he still hasn't gotten it done until maybe later tonight :rolleyes:




Sorry but Wade and Bosh aren't super star caliber players. Wade is probably the most overrated guy in the NBA right now, he misses a ton of shots, makes bad decisions, and doesn't have half the talent current super syats in the league have. (like durant, kobe, lebron, etc) Bosh is soft as fuck, and albeit a great player not superstar worthy. Kevin Love plays the PF exactly like him and has a better shot better rebounding, and more muscle to be able to play in the low post more like a PF should. It's like when the celtic's got there big 3, the only true great one was garnett, the other 2 were top quality player but not super stars.

Lebron will finish with more rings and award then kobe will, that's a fact. Kobe only got his MVP because people thought "he should get one before he retires" he wasn't the best player that season, just like derrick rose last year, lebron should of had 4 MVp's right now.


and you seem to be forgetting basketball is a team sport, you can run through a bunch of the east with 1 player of James caliber, but you'll never win the finals against better teams with more talent in the west. The Heat are only in their second year of being a team and already about to win a championship, compared to shaq + Kobe being on same team for 3-4 years before they won their first, and it wasn't even Kobe who was the most dominant player in the first championship runs on his team, it was Shaq. So how can you argue kobe is better when he wasn't the reason they kept winning? lol. That's like saying when the mavericks won last year it was because of Caron Butler and not Dirk, no one is going to take you serious.
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Excuses for a player and assholes are all the same, and by that logic are you saying now that LeBron is actually on the cusp of getting his FIRST title (with 2 other multiple time all stars supporting him) that THAT'S not equal to Kobe and Shaq being teamed up for their multiple title run? Wade only has one title (with Shaq there), Kobe has one title without Shaq yada yada and LeBron still has 0, either way, who cares? Kobe and MJ (the greatest ever IMO) will have more hardware than his cry baby ass regardless of who was and wasn't on their team for years to come. People still making excuses for LeBron when he has Wade and Bosh right there with him is ridiculous, he still hasn't gotten it done until maybe later tonight :rolleyes:




Sorry but Lebron and Bosh aren't super star caliber players. Lebron is probably the most overrated guy in the NBA right now, he misses a ton of shots, makes bad decisions, and doesn't have half the talent current super stars in the league have. (like durant, kobe, rose, etc) Bosh is soft as fuck, and albeit a great player not superstar worthy. Kevin Love plays the PF exactly like him and has a better shot better rebounding, and more muscle to be able to play in the low post more like a PF should.



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Excuses for a player and assholes are all the same, and by that logic are you saying now that LeBron is actually on the cusp of getting his FIRST title (with 2 other multiple time all stars supporting him) that THAT'S not equal to Kobe and Shaq being teamed up for their multiple title run? Wade only has one title (with Shaq there), Kobe has one title without Shaq yada yada and LeBron still has 0, either way, who cares? Kobe and MJ (the greatest ever IMO) will have more hardware than his cry baby ass regardless of who was and wasn't on their team for years to come. People still making excuses for LeBron when he has Wade and Bosh right there with him is ridiculous, he still hasn't gotten it done until maybe later tonight :rolleyes:




Lebron will finish with more rings and award then kobe will, that's a fact. Kobe only got his MVP because people thought "he should get one before he retires" he wasn't the best player that season, just like derrick rose last year, lebron should of had 4 MVp's right now.



Ok now that's just stupid. Rose single handedly led the Bulls to a 62-20 record. Boozer did some and Noah did some but Rose put that team on his back all the way to the ECF. So saying he doesn't deserve the MVP last year is being fucking retarded. Excuse my language but come on stop being stupid now.

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Lebron will finish with more rings and award then kobe will, that's a fact. Kobe only got his MVP because people thought "he should get one before he retires" he wasn't the best player that season, just like derrick rose last year, lebron should of had 4 MVp's right now.



Ok now that's just stupid. Rose single handedly led the Bulls to a 62-20 record. Boozer did some and Noah did some but Rose put that team on his back all the way to the ECF. So saying he doesn't deserve the MVP last year is being fucking retarded. Excuse my language but come on stop being stupid now.




Lebron James 2010-2011 Season Stats:

PPG - 26.5
RPG - 7.50
APG - 6.8
EFF + 28.07

Derrick Rose 2010-2011 Season Stats:

PPG - 24.9
RPG - 4.20
APG - 7.9
EFF + 23.00


yeah go away now, considering the fact Derrick Rose has Deng, Boozer, and a more well rounded team then the heat, he still doesn't even compare.
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Ok now that's just stupid. Rose single handedly led the Bulls to a 62-20 record. Boozer did some and Noah did some but Rose put that team on his back all the way to the ECF. So saying he doesn't deserve the MVP last year is being fucking retarded. Excuse my language but come on stop being stupid now.




Lebron James 2010-2011 Season Stats:

PPG - 26.5
RPG - 7.50
APG - 6.8
EFF + 28.07

Derrick Rose 2010-2011 Season Stats:

PPG - 24.9
RPG - 4.20
APG - 7.9
EFF + 23.00


yeah go away now, considering the fact Derrick Rose has Deng, Boozer, and a more well rounded team then the heat, he still doesn't even compare.



I wasn't talking about stats and HOW DOES ROSE HAVE A MORE WELL ROUNDED TEAM WHEN JAMES HAS WADE AND BOSH who are far more superior to Deng and Boozer.
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Sorry but Lebron and Bosh aren't super star caliber players. Lebron is probably the most overrated guy in the NBA right now, he misses a ton of shots, makes bad decisions, and doesn't have half the talent current super stars in the league have. (like durant, kobe, rose, etc) Bosh is soft as fuck, and albeit a great player not superstar worthy. Kevin Love plays the PF exactly like him and has a better shot better rebounding, and more muscle to be able to play in the low post more like a PF should.



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you're an idiot if you can't see lebron is the best player in the league, rose is a fast PG with scoring first mind set, after his injury this year he won't be as fast or effective, it would be the same as westbrook getting injured. they play EXACTLY the same.

Bulls have a more team oriented basketball aside from rose. and lebron lead the cav's to 2 60 plus game seasons, so what's your point?
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laughing so hard right now, Dan Gilbert with his promise of the cavs winning a ring before lebron comes to mind. & their official forum is closed off and on private, so much for getting over lebron leaving. lool
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I could give two shits and a fuck about this argument and whether or not Lebron wins a title tonight. I'll just be glad the finals are over. I've always been a Cavs fan but never that big a fan of NBA basketball. I'm not one of these rabid Lebron haters but I'll never respect Lebron as a person for the way he left. I was never so much mad that he left but in the way he did it. He's been a spoiled brat his whole life and has had everyone bend over backwards to tongue his asshole to keep him happy. I would've loved to see him lose but I'm not gonna lose any sleep when he wins his title.
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