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2) which position should the Heat get rid of to have 2 SGs?



"whatcha talkin about willius"

Dan Gilbert needs to take a page out of Bryan Colangelo's book and have some respect for the players and decisions they make.



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Bryan Colangelo
"To say we're disappointed, sure," he said. "It is disappointing when you lose that type of player, an all-star player.

"But you move forward and do what you can to get things moving in the right direction."

"We're losing Chris Bosh not because of this city, this organization or where we found ourselves," Colangelo said. "We're losing Chris Bosh because he's got an opportunity to go play in completely unknown, unforeseen and unheard of circumstances and the possibility of three guys joining forces is unique and somewhat of a revolution for our league.

"He's part of the revolution."



Lord knows Toronto hasn't won anything in years lol.
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Theyre gonna move Wade to Center, :laugh: Lebron apparantly promised "multiple championships" then he said hes all about business.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2010/07/09/20100709_mia_presser4.nba/

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Quote by Melissa Evol:



Quote by Cosmo G Spacely:


if the heat pick up kyle korver aka mr. ambercrombie aka white ray allen they might as well hand the heat the championship.



1) the Bulls signed him today

2) which position should the Heat get rid of to have 2 SGs?



the bench? all they need is a few role players off the bench, and with ginobli rumored to be going to the heat..how can you argue this? lebron wouldn't have come back regardless due to the team chemistry getting destroyed by delonte west.


your jordan argument is flawed because free agency wasn't as big a deal back then as it was today, players typically stayed on the same team. whereas today players are constantly switching teams, it's just what has happened with trades/free agency/time.
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1) the Bulls signed him today

2) which position should the Heat get rid of to have 2 SGs?



the bench? all they need is a few role players off the bench, and with ginobli rumored to be going to the heat..how can you argue this? lebron wouldn't have come back regardless due to the team chemistry getting destroyed by delonte west.



lol i was wondering what she was talking about. But yea, was refering to the bench. Chalmers at PG Wade at SG, lebron at SF bosh at PF, whom ever at center. Hell Lebron is capable of playing 1,2,3 and 4 spot.

I didn't hear the ginobli rumor. Do they have enough cap to pull ginobli?

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I say we just make a Lebron thread. :p
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Quote by Melissa Evol:



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the bench? all they need is a few role players off the bench, and with ginobli rumored to be going to the heat..how can you argue this? lebron wouldn't have come back regardless due to the team chemistry getting destroyed by delonte west.


your jordan argument is flawed because free agency wasn't as big a deal back then as it was today, players typically stayed on the same team. whereas today players are constantly switching teams, it's just what has happened with trades/free agency/time.



So forget they have 2 starting positions to fill, if they get a certain person on their bench hand them a championship ring? :scratches head:

Your "team chemistry destroyed by West" argument is flawed because that's an unsubstantiated rumor that's fun to say, but has very slim chance of being true.



It's most likely a rumor that was started by Lebron's camp to create a bullshit excuse to say that the team chemistry was on edge. Lebrons camp has been trying to sow seeds of contempt for years to make excuses when he leaves. Snapplecap's just talking out his ass to get a rise out of the Cleveland fans who post here at XBA.

Ohio proves my point
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I reiterated that I'm just pissed Lebron isn't on my team anymore




I respect the feelings of being hurt and saddened by losing a SUPERSTAR player, but once again most of the Ohio posts dealing with the issue all have the same tagline "He owed us" or "He should've done it this way". Did you read nothing I wrote he did plenty for Ohio and the Cavs, don't tell me that anyone bothered to watch a Cavs game outside of Ohio before Lebron showed up and I could prolly count the number of season ticket holders prior to Lebron's arrival on both hands.

He brought revenue, interest and confidence to a decade's worth of ho hum seasons and first round playoff exits. He brought accolades that again prior to Lebron's arrival didn't get much more impressive than an All NBA first team spot. He won a Conferance Championship which eluded the Cavs their entire stay in the NBA oh and he did that his 3RD year in the NBA.

You talk about Jordan staying with Chicago, he stayed with Chicago because the Bulls upper managment constantly built talent around him, they brought in solid players and drafted exceptionally well in those 7 years leading up to the Championship run. Plus it's not like they fell apart without him, when he first retired in 1994 the Bulls still won 55 games and made the playoffs, I don't see the Cavs winning anything but the first pick in the NBA Draft the following year without Lebron.

You say he is the cause of the Cavs demise in the NBA playoffs this year? Well how about looking up the statistics of his supporting cast as well, good god man not a single person averaged over 16 points a game in that series, what the hell is Lebron suppose to do when he's the only one putting the ball in the bucket with any consistancy? You talk about how the Cavs spoiled him and coddled him with what? Shaq? An aging center who's last great season was 3 or 4 years ago? Jamison who has been in the league for 12 years and barely averaged 18 points a game in the playoffs this year. Delonte? This dude is the largest waste of a position spot since Kurt Henrich wasted cap space in Chicago for 2 years, he is a talentless hoodlum who's only accolade to date seems to be fucking Lebron James's mom....nice. Mo? HAHAHAHAHAHA this guy has disappeared in every clutch playoff series he has been in and I'm sorry but 53 turnovers in 2 years from a PG in the playoffs is awful. The Cavs did far from spoil they skimped, they did less than coddle they pushed away. Gilbert used the "hometown" schtick to death, and what did he offer Lebron during that meeting? "Hey Lebron, ummmm we have no cap room , and uhhhhh we know we promised you a solid number 2 guy, but I hear that the Celtics might be throwing away some bench players we could snag up" *snickers* Plus Phil Jackson is the most decorated NBA coach in the history of the game, and probably one of the best playoff coaches around. Mike Brown was just some fat dude who got all excited whenever Lebron dunked the basketball, he failed them consistantly in the playoffs with his gameplans and he got fired for it.

Dan Gilbert deserves all if not most of the blame, not Lebron James, of course he's not going to win a championship right away (though I wouldn't rule it out) but the foundation has already been laid in Miami, something that Cleveland could never seem to get right, they had a merry go round of sub par players and rookies that just kinda watched Lebron shoot and expected him to score 35 points a night. Which he pretty much did for 7 seasons and yet no ring, you think that Jordan would've won any championships without those great position players at his side? One maybe but no three peat or dynasty.

Thats the difference is Reinsdorf and Krause actually set out and did what they told Jordan they would do and built a team around him, Gilbert just tossed a slew of average players and expected Lebron to turn them into winners. Which he kinda did in a way because well if you look at the Cavs last 5 years they're a extremely successful team and won their Division handly the last 2 years. Dan Gilbert is a coward for acting like he gives a shit about Ohio or the fans, he's more displeased with the fact that noone is going to give a shit about Cleveland basketball for awhile and he's going to have to buy his groceries at Wal-Mart like all the other Lebron haters. The more you guys try to convince me the less factual the conversations become and the more apparent Clevelands dependance on Lebron to win is.

Jordan stayed because he got results from the front office and was always loved by his fans no matter how the season ended, you guys just about lynched him after the playoffs and expected him to show loyalty haha, Lebron owes Ohio nothing, just be happy you were relevant in the league for a bit.
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I say we just make a Lebron thread. :p



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Still talking out my ass!



We're through reading your novel long posts. Why don't you go start a blog and title it: "Does anyone want to read my ramblings?" Did you read that article I linked and posted a portion of in post #56 on the previous page? If not here's the link again. Read it and then write another novel. Click Here

The fact of the matter is Lebron's always been a spoiled brat and we didn't care because he was our spoiled brat. He's Miami's spoiled brat now and Cleveland will get over it. We endured more than our fair share of sports heartbreaks. Cleveland has always been Browns Town even though they've been terrible and only made the playoffs once since they came back. Even if Lebron had won a championship here the Cavs would still be the second favorite show in town.
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and Cleveland will get over it.



Doesn't look or seem that way :laugh:
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I enjoy sports and debate, and i'm one of the people who agreed with the decision Lebron made.

I'm not breaking any rules or slandering anyone on the website, I'm stating clear cut facts and statistics not articles written by jilted sports writers, it's propoganda and its opinion not fact. Everything that I have posted in my "novel" like threads can be looked up and and proven with statistical facts. I know you're a decent fellow, as well as the Evol's and whoever else thinks Lebron is some spoiled brat child but Its a free country and I can state my opinion as well, if it's presented in a mature manner.

Unfortunately your responses to any Lebron praise as been anything but mature.
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Still talking out my ass!



If not here's the link again. Read it and then right another novel.



You mean write, right? LOL sorry, had to do it. I do agree with you 100% about Cleveland being the Brown's town. Even iff the Browns go 1-15, they will sell out (or come really close) on all 16 of those games. I don't think if the Cavs had a terrible season that they would sell out any of those games. Lebron was a baby about this whole thing, but he needs to do what is in his best interest. I just wish he didn't put an hour long special about it on ESPN. It just made me miss football season that much more.
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