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Re: iPhone

07/07/07 1:55 pm | #16

Quote by zoboa:

In addition, Safari only supporst Apple Quick time and youtube, which means videos on teh most popular sites like CNN, ESPN and everything else in teh free world will not work.

I just want to clear up some confusion... I don't think that's not entirely true. The iPhone doesn't have flash... at least not yet, in order to preserve battery life. Flash is rumored to be included in a software update, but I don't understand why Apple wouldn't have included it from the start.

Straight from the ADC guidelines for creating web 2.0 apps for the iPhone:

Unattributed Quote:

The following movie formats are supported:

* H.264 Baseline Profile Level 3.0 video, up to 640 x 480 at 30 fps. Note that B frames are not supported in the Baseline profile.
* MPEG-4 Part 2 video (Simple Profile)
* AAC-LC audio, up to 48 kHz
* .mov, .mp4, .m4v, .3gp file formats
* Any movies or audio files that can play on an iPod.

I'm pretty confident MPEG-4 is often used on the web.

Re: iPhone

07/07/07 2:09 pm | #17

Quote by Pastafarianism:

I just want to clear up some confusion... I don't think that's not entirely true. The iPhone doesn't have flash... at least not yet, in order to preserve battery life. Flash is rumored to be included in a software update, but I don't understand why Apple wouldn't have included it from the start.

Straight from the ADC guidelines for creating web 2.0 apps for the iPhone:

I'm pretty confident MPEG-4 is often used on the web.

Safari does not support the Flash plug in or Java, two things absolutely critical to displaying the majority of web based video and animation. Doesn't matter what format the video is in if you cant see it....

Rumor is that a Flash plug in is coming, but why wasn't it in the device at the start....

Re: iPhone

07/07/07 4:30 pm | #18

Quote by zoboa:

Safari does not support the Flash plug in or Java, two things absolutely critical to displaying the majority of web based video and animation. Doesn't matter what format the video is in if you cant see it....

Rumor is that a Flash plug in is coming, but why wasn't it in the device at the start....

You're repeating what I said. Java is not usually used for web based video. I suppose some online games, but it's not that common.

If a video is in MPEG-4 format, which is quite common, you can view it. You just can't view flash video. Flash video is a different format in itself. A video is not MPEG-4 and Flash.

Re: iPhone

07/07/07 4:53 pm | #19

Quote by Pastafarianism:

You're repeating what I said. Java is not usually used for web based video. I suppose some online games, but it's not that common.

If a video is in MPEG-4 format, which is quite common, you can view it. You just can't view flash video. Flash video is a different format in itself. A video is not MPEG-4 and Flash.

Okay, but most video on the net is viewed in a flash format or downloaded to your machine to be viewed. Plus, many web sites (especially casual gaming sites) use java or flash to make things work.

Re: iPhone

07/07/07 11:55 pm | #20

Too late. I bought an iPhone today in the Chicago Apple store while on vacation. It's the only store in the Midwest with them in stock. (Had to go early in the morning). I come home tomrrow and will activate it on Monday, then I'll have a full review set up. And Z, as I see it, G2 or G3 won't be out until another two years anyway, and the contract expires then too, so if need be, I'll get a new one then and enjoy G1 in it's prime.

P.S.
I only had to pay for half of the cost, other half was an early birthday gift.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 12:26 am | #21

Quote by ukfan1444:

Too late. I bought an iPhone today in the Chicago Apple store while on vacation. It's the only store in the Midwest with them in stock. (Had to go early in the morning). I come home tomrrow and will activate it on Monday, then I'll have a full review set up. And Z, as I see it, G2 or G3 won't be out until another two years anyway, and the contract expires then too, so if need be, I'll get a new one then and enjoy G1 in it's prime.

P.S.
I only had to pay for half of the cost, other half was an early birthday gift.

I am so jealous of you right now... Post plenty of pictures and everything when you get it activated. Honestly, if I could, I would get one now too... I'm just making excuses to make myself feel better about not getting one.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 1:47 am | #22

Quote by ukfan1444:

Too late. I bought an iPhone today in the Chicago Apple store while on vacation. It's the only store in the Midwest with them in stock. (Had to go early in the morning). I come home tomrrow and will activate it on Monday, then I'll have a full review set up. And Z, as I see it, G2 or G3 won't be out until another two years anyway, and the contract expires then too, so if need be, I'll get a new one then and enjoy G1 in it's prime.

P.S.
I only had to pay for half of the cost, other half was an early birthday gift.

Early B-Day present? Hope they are helping pay the costs

It will cost you $60 a month minimum ($1,440 for the full two years) and another $36 for an activation fee (assuming the larger memory model). All told, you and your parents will have paid out $2,076 over 2-years for what is essentially a crippled Video Ipod that can take crappy pictures, surf the net at dial up speeds, utilizes the worst cellular carrier in the U.S. (AT&T/Cingular has the lowest customer satisfaction ratings every year) and only has 8 Gb of memory among other things (there are too many flaws to list all here).

Usually I'm not so passionate about something, but I hate to see someone your age (sorry for the lecture) use that kind of money on something so frivolous.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 2:35 am | #23

I wouldn't get too worried. Despite the iPhone's numerous flaws... the iPhone is still an awesome device, just a little expensive. UK already had AT&T so this was really only a $600 phone, plus the data plan. If I had AT&T right now, I'd probably end up buying an iPhone.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 12:41 pm | #24

Quote by Pastafarianism:

I wouldn't get too worried. Despite the iPhone's numerous flaws... the iPhone is still an awesome device, just a little expensive. UK already had AT&T so this was really only a $600 phone, plus the data plan. If I had AT&T right now, I'd probably end up buying an iPhone.

He has Cincinnatti Bell on a monthly contract, so he will bear the full brunt of the costs.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 12:55 pm | #25

Quote by zoboa:

He has Cincinnatti Bell on a monthly contract, so he will bear the full brunt of the costs.

My bad, I thought he had AT&T for some reason.

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 7:21 pm | #26

No, they're paying for half of it. And we already pay $60 a month for wireless anyway so we're good. I'm home now so I'll hopefully get it all set up tomorrow with a full review. Also Z, at&t is most definitely not the worst network, that would be Cincinnati Bell. I don't get service in my house, my friend's house, my neighborhood and even downtown Cincinnati. Plus I'm coming from a crappy RAZR so this will be quite a fantastic upgrade for me.

P.S.
Cincinnati only has one "t", three "n's"

Re: iPhone

07/08/07 7:41 pm | #27

Quote by ukfan1444:

No, they're paying for half of it. And we already pay $60 a month for wireless anyway so we're good. I'm home now so I'll hopefully get it all set up tomorrow with a full review. Also Z, at&t is most definitely not the worst network, that would be Cincinnati Bell. I don't get service in my house, my friend's house, my neighborhood and even downtown Cincinnati. Plus I'm coming from a crappy RAZR so this will be quite a fantastic upgrade for me.

P.S.
Cincinnati only has one "t", three "n's"

Cincy Bell is a regional wireless carrier, of course they suck. AT&T /Cingular is the worst of the "Big Boys" (Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint and AT&T/Cingular).

If you are already paying $60, I would guess you are on the Cincy Bell "Double Minute" program, which includes 2,000 MOUs, unlimited inbound Text Messages, Unlimited Nights and Weekends, and Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile. You will probably be getting "less" in terms of Phone use than you were before...

Re: iPhone

07/09/07 1:43 am | #28

Quote by zoboa:

Cincy Bell is a regional wireless carrier, of course they suck. AT&T /Cingular is the worst of the "Big Boys" (Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint and AT&T/Cingular).

If you are already paying $60, I would guess you are on the Cincy Bell "Double Minute" program, which includes 2,000 MOUs, unlimited inbound Text Messages, Unlimited Nights and Weekends, and Unlimited Mobile-to-Mobile. You will probably be getting "less" in terms of Phone use than you were before...

Except he will have unlimited data which is something he undoubtedly didn't have before.

Re: iPhone

07/09/07 1:14 pm | #29

Off to the at&t store to set things up. Can't wait to get back and play with my iPhone!

Re: iPhone

07/09/07 1:31 pm | #30

Quote by ukfan1444:

Off to the at&t store to set things up. Can't wait to get back and play with my iPhone!

I thought you set it up online through iTunes and AT&T customer service?

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