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I actually heard a bit more detail on this, though it may have been a different game.

If I remember right, what they are actually going to do is offer an option to pay a monthly fee. In order to play online you do not need to pay an extra fee. However, they will be supporting frequent downloads and add-ons to the game and there will be a couple options to get them. First, you can continue in the current trend and just purchase them if and when you want to using Microsoft Points. The alternative will be to sign up for the monthly fee, and in paying for that, you will get all the downloads and add-ons for the game, plus early access to some features and exclusive content.

Not saying this because I will actually sign up for it, I probably will not even buy the game. Just trying to clear up some confusion, though I may be wrong on this too, in which case, rant on!

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Not really. I paid 60 bucks for a game called Sky Kid when I was younger. That was for the NES and you would laugh to think about paying 60 for it now.

The systems do cost a bit more but when coupled with inflation and the fact they do a LOT more than they used to do, its worth it.

The thing is we don't really pay a lot more than we used to pay. And even if you want to argue me that point, we GET a lot more than we used to get.

Whats irritating is we are paying for XBL to play games online. If there is going to be a fee for every game we get to play online then they need to stop charging us for an XBL subscription. Plain and simple.

I'm totally down with boycotting Activision. Those bastards made Pitfall. Have you ever WON that game? Bunch of a-holes if you ask me :laugh: Anyone who created pitfall just has to be evil. Damned alligators and damned scorpions. I didn't want the gold bar to begin with, just let me out of this jungle!!!!!!!



I guess what I mean is, 60 dollars for a game, 10 plus for DLC, 8 bucks for online gaming. Theres wireless controllers, wireless adapters, chargers, docking stations. It was so simple with the Nintendo. You buy the console, then buy the games. Thats it. Also, I want everyone to know. I'm not happy about paying thousands of dollars a year for a hobby. I'm just saying that no matter how expensive it gets, its not gonna stop me from gaming. Thats in my nature. My old hobby used to be bagged trucks. I easily sinked 5000 grand into a truck that was only worth 1100 bucks.



Someone has a lot of money...
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60% of the subscribers for XBL do it for MW2???? Maybe 60% have PLAYED MW2 at some point, but that is such crap and trying to drum up your own franchise and whine about not having money. While the guy's suit is probably worth as much as my car, and his car is worth as much as my house.



You never know when he was informed of that information. He most likely pulled some data from when MW2 was released and not current data.

It's like when a movie says it's based on real life events. You don't know how much of the real life events the movie is actually based on. 21 is a great example if anyone knows the real story used.
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Screw Activision, THQ already did something similar to this with UFC 2010 where to play online you have to enter a 1 time use code. So if you buy it used you would have to buy a new code to allow a mode of the game to work. Granted it is a 1 time fee but is still BS and think it is opening the gates for Activision to Charge monthly.
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Screw Activision, THQ already did something similar to this with UFC 2010 where to play online you have to enter a 1 time use code. So if you buy it used you would have to buy a new code to allow a mode of the game to work. Granted it is a 1 time fee but is still BS and think it is opening the gates for Activision to Charge monthly.



Supposedly the only reason "Dana" did this, not THQ was because the game was pirated and leaked to way to many people. Therefore they thought that not very many people would buy, or much less play the game online. Although I still dont agree with it.
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its a rip off no matter how you look at it. we as gamers already pay enough. we bought so much already xbox 360 $300, game $60 and $50 for a year of gold. i dont think it would be smart to make people pay more. it wont gain them money it will only lose them money and fan base
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To be completely honest, if this is only for call of duty I won't care..
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I won't be paying to play beyond what I shell out for my XBL subscription.

On the other hand, the additional fees my keep the young kids without credit cards out of some games. That might be the silver lining in this black cloud.
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This has been a huge discussion for a while. Myself, I won't pay to play. I will keep LIVE, though.

I keep hearing about more games that have their own 'network' which you have a code for. The first time I used one was for Mass Effect 2. Kind of like a system out side the main system. You could sign into the system before entering into the game. Big deal. But I guess it was the first step in establishing a new way of gaming.

Everyone remember AOL? America On Line? They were convinced that they were going to take over the internet. Now they no longer exist. All of these companies better take a good look at themselves before going into this new gaming frontier. I think that most people aren't going to play the games that involve 'pay' services, leaving these companies with no following and no paycheck.

I really wonder what the companies want the cash for? Ok, more money. I get that. But are the 'pay' services to pay for server farms? Could be and I understand that, too. PC gamers already pay for online playtime. MMO's are the biggest contributors to this mind set and the biggest users of server farms. On the Xbox 360, Halo 3 and ODST are in the same position, they have server farms. Which is also why Halo 2 died. The server farms were costing too much.

But what about games the use 'cloud computing'? What are we paying for then? For anyone who hasn't heard this term, cloud computing is also known as 'shared resources'. Epic uses it for both Gears 1 + 2. Instead of dedicated servers, you have 'host' 360's acting in place of servers. No server farms.

Many gaming companies are going in this direction. If they do, server farms, which are just warehouses and other large buildings filled with rows + rows of servers, what is the industry going to do with all of those spare servers?

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Everybody forgets one element... you are paying for your internet connection as well. To play online I pay for the game. $60 I pay for Internet - $50 I pay for XBL Gold - - $50 And they want more? Not from me. XBL gold fees would need to go away, that's NOT going to happen. I'm interested to Microsoft's take on all this. Will they allow this???

so $50+$50+$60=if there's afew games that come out in 1 or 2 months, then that's a whole lot of money that shouldn't be charged. Valve, come save us, we need free DLC and all that crap that costs a s:sorry:tload of money!!
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"We've heard that 60 per cent of [Microsoft's] subscribers are principally on Live because of Call of Duty," said Kotick. "We don't really participate financially in that income stream. We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network."

Quote from the article. That man is SO FULL OF SHIT IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE.

60% of the subscribers for XBL do it for MW2???? Maybe 60% have PLAYED MW2 at some point, but that is such crap and trying to drum up your own franchise and whine about not having money. While the guy's suit is probably worth as much as my car, and his car is worth as much as my house.

Screw Activision. Screw monthly payments for online games on XBL or PSN.



All this, really hard.
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"We've heard that 60 per cent of [Microsoft's] subscribers are principally on Live because of Call of Duty," said Kotick. "We don't really participate financially in that income stream. We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it's not our network."

Quote from the article. That man is SO FULL OF SHIT IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE.

60% of the subscribers for XBL do it for MW2???? Maybe 60% have PLAYED MW2 at some point, but that is such crap and trying to drum up your own franchise and whine about not having money. While the guy's suit is probably worth as much as my car, and his car is worth as much as my house.

Screw Activision. Screw monthly payments for online games on XBL or PSN.

All this, really hard.

I agree 100%. But these moronic companies are going to press on the see if they can make this a standard practice. I will laugh at them while their bones bleach in the sun.

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