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I am sure most of you veteran XBAer's remember my prior posting of when I got my second back surgery a few years ago. A discectomy on my L4-L5 disc due to a herniation. That was my second time herniating that same disc. Prior to that I had a double herniation in my L4-L5 and L5-S1 discs. That also ended in surgery with a double discectomy which took me out for a while.

Well, here comes round three. Recently, my back has been acting up a ton. Lots of pain in the lower back area, pain shooting in my left leg, having difficulty walking or standing for long periods of time, etc. Stuff that had happened before in the past. I gave up detailing automobiles and have been also taking it easy when it comes to photography as my hobby, due to the pain. I have been going to NM Orthopedics for the past several months.

I have done X-Rays, MRIs, Injections and so on, and have been quite busy with them. I finally talked to a Doctor on Wednesday, and he told me that the next step would be a fusion of the L4-L5 area, basicly the big problem spot. He gave me two choices, I could do a partial fusion, which they only fix one side, or they can do a level 2 fusion, completely fusing the area. Basicly I would end up with screws in my spine and can now set off metal detectors like a champ all ninja style.

He also told me that with the level 2 fusion, I would lose 30% of my mobility. It would mainly affect anything that had to do with my back, ie. Sitting, bending, etc. If it were movement in my hips, I would be fine with that. He also mentioned that with this level 2 fusion, that it will affect me 20 to 25 years from now and most likely ruin the disc area above the fusion, which could potentially put me in a dub edition wheel chair.

So he gave me a bunch of paper work and wants me to think the whole thing over. My next appointment is in January (yes way too long) and I am personally leaning towards the level 2 fusion and not the partial. If their gonna go in there, might as well be in one shot. In 20 to 25 years, I would be close to 50 years of age, I don't know if I would really care if I was in a chair then. But I dunno.

What do you guys think? Have you had any experiences with this procedure or know someone who has been through it? I know some of you had talked to me on live, and you all know I value your feedback.

Thanks for reading and please share your thoughts or opinions.

Gabriel
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Wow Junior. I'm sorry to hear you're still having all these problems with your back.

I think it's a tough call to make. Obviously you are the only one who knows what kind of pain you are in, and whether or not 20-25 years of potential fix is worth the loss of mobility and potential life changing things later.

I can't say exactly what I'd do in your position, but being the practical person that I tend to be, I'd say make a list of all the pros/cons of each scenario. Or maybe a best/worst case for each type of surgery. Sometimes when you start looking at them that way, you may see overall one option is a bit better than the other.

Sadly I can't offer much more help than that. We learned about having vertebrae fused in school, but only the basics. No advice to offer you from a medical standpoint :(
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Im with Mini on this. Do more research (bcuz I am sure you have done some) and see what is the best long term solution for you. I wish you the best buddy
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Damn Junior, this really sucks man. My dad had a hip replacement surgery about 9 years ago, put him down for about 6 months. It was one of the recalled hips from Johnson & Johnson a few years ago. The lawyer for that told him he had an option of a new surgery to replace it again, all at J&Js cost, or J&J paying for pain meds for the rest of his life. He's was 56 at the time. He chose the meds.

I guess part of it is, do you think at about 50 you want another surgery if the partial fusion messes up at that point.

Again, this is all your decision, which no one else can really make.

I wish you the best in whatever you decide.

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Damn man, my well wishes and prayers go out to you. My only suggestion I would give is this, do what you feel is best but avoid the wheelchair as long as you can, I've been in one for the last 12+ years, its not a fun way to go through life my friend. Again my wishes and prayers are going to you.

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Damn Gabe, this sucks. You are definitely in our thoughts and prayers.

I feel sort of the same way you do--where you said around 50 you may not mind being in a chair as much as you would now, and if they are going to do an operation then go all the way with it. It's definitely hard to say for something so far down the road.

Is it relatively assured that the level 2 fusion will alleviate the back and leg pain, and allow you to walk and/or stand for extended periods of time for now and the next 20 years or whatever?
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You won't set off metal detectors. I have 3 screws in my wrists and they do absolutely nothing.
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Listen to Mikey - avoid the wheel chair for as long as you can!!
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I appreciate all the thoughts and prayers from you guys, I really do.

The operation if all goes well, should allow me to get to doing normal walking with minimal pain, as well as other regular activities. The problem lies in how I would end up doing them. The way I sit, sleep, get up from a bed, drive, etc. Would all change. When its cold out, I will more than likely be in pain and have a lot of aches going on. I wouldn't be completely without pain, but it would supposedly be, far less than what I am dealing with now.

I won't be able to really lift/carry anything, run/jog, without pissing off my back. But as far as I know, going to the game store to pickup a new game or something won't be an issue :). Jokes aside, either way in my opinion, I see myself being in some kind of pain. If I don't get the surgery, I'm obviously still hurting. If I get the surgery, it sounds like I could be in pain, here and there. As far as daily routines, I can't say how much I will be able to do something until the surgery happens.

I want to avoid the wheel chair as much as I can. I know if I am put in one, I would still be grateful for having my life still, and for being able to still be with my family. And of course to pick on some of you on LIVE, lol. All this is still pretty nerve wrecking and it makes me more appreciative to the fact, that I am able to still walk and get around, even in pain. I envy folks like Mikey, who can still live life happily, even in a chair and enjoy things that I enjoy such as gaming. People like you are much stronger than I would ever be, right now.

The next thing I wonder, is how long the recovery period is. I didn't ask like a meathead. I hate staying in the hospital, and I'm wondering how long I would have to be in there after the surgery. Someone in my family needs to get me a windows phone or surface tablet for christmas for this reason, lol.

Again, thank you guys for all of your thoughts, prayers and opinions. It means a lot...except for AJ's :rolleyes:
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Don't know you too well, but I hope everthing turns out alright. :)
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Good luck man.
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Good Luck.

If you don't mind me asking; how did all of this begin??
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Sorry to hear that, I am actualy having a total acl reconstruction on the twenty seventh... Woohoo I get to get part of a dead person in me, good luck.
P.S the sleeping is the best part tell then not to wake you up:)
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Come Friday, May 10th at 6am, I will be getting my spine fused. The procedure had been getting put off due to me being nervous and because the Doctor wanted to do more research in seeing if there were another solution for me.

I have never been so nervous about an operation. But the Doctor laid out some of what could happen during recovery and it has had me thinking like crazy. He said I get the operation, and spend the whole weekend in the hospital. That Monday, if I can function correctly then I may come home, otherwise if I can't walk or move, then they would transfer me to a rehabilitation center, where I would learn the basics all over again. Once it is all said and done recovery is betweent one to two years. They also gave me a back brace I have to wear during recovery called the ninja.

So it sounds like a long and rough recovery. It also sounds very scary too. I have been thinking of the worse of the worse situations. I mean it is only natural right?

So what do you folks think? Am I dumb for considering the surgery,? My pain is really sucky lately and want relief but at what cost, you know?

So again thanks for reading and thank you for all prior comments.
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