Obama's speech in Grand Junction (1-2 hours away from where I live in Colorado) was great today 
Archived: Current Events Thread
Posted Under: Deeper Discussions
Re: Current Events Thread
08/15/09 11:33 pm | #31
Burnt Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 25,000 or higher.
Bronze Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 50,000 or higher.
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
Re: Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 12:21 am | #34
Xbox America Staff
This is a staff member of Xbox America
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Ron Burgundy
This user has written 10+ published Xbox America news articles.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
Representin'
This user has given Xbox America some love in his Xbox Live motto.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
Quote by Top Dogs 360:
I really have to ask, specifically you Jackson since your into politics. What do you think about the governor of South Carolina? I for one cannot believe he is still in office. I think elected officials even at the highest authority have to remember that the eyes of the whole state and nation are on them and they are like a role model for all of us Americans or Michiganders, Ohioans or whatever you may be.
If you're talking about his unfaithfulness, I honestly have no problem with Mark Sanford. I actually pity him. I read his letters between him and his love interest and they reveal that he truly was in love. She wasn't just some bimbo he was using to satisfy his lust. Love is a complicated emotion and for some couples it doesn't last forever. He told his wife about the affair and he had the bravery to admit his infidelity publicly.
I was only eight years old when Bill Clinton was impeached and so was obviously not politically-interested, but in retrospect I don't think I'd have a problem with his infidelity either. I definitely would have had a problem with the perjury charge, but unfaithfulness alone isn't enough for me to want a politician removed from office.
All in all, I actually really like and respect Mark Sanford. My only beef with him is his initial refusal to accept stimulus funds. I understand and agree with the message he was trying to send, but the people of South Carolina were footing the bill for the stimulus just as much as the rest of the country. He should've simply been vocal about his dissent but accepted the funds.
Re: Re: Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 12:55 am | #36
Xbox America Friend
This user has donated $1+ to Xbox America.
Xbox America Sponsor
This user has donated $15+ to Xbox America.
Burnt Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 25,000 or higher.
Bronze Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 50,000 or higher.
3 Year Login Streak
This user has logged in to Xbox America every day for the past three years.
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Waffle Philanthropist
This user has donated three or more games to the Waffle Order thread.
Barterer
This user has completed 3 or more game trades and is in good trading standing.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Gamercard Lover
This user has posted one of his or her official Xbox America gamercards on another website.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
Miscellaneous Service
This user has performed some sort of miscellaneous service for Xbox America that deserves to be recognized.
Quote by Jackson:
If you're talking about his unfaithfulness, I honestly have no problem with Mark Sanford. I actually pity him. I read his letters between him and his love interest and they reveal that he truly was in love. She wasn't just some bimbo he was using to satisfy his lust. Love is a complicated emotion and for some couples it doesn't last forever. He told his wife about the affair and he had the bravery to admit his infidelity publicly.
I was only eight years old when Bill Clinton was impeached and so was obviously not politically-interested, but in retrospect I don't think I'd have a problem with his infidelity either. I definitely would have had a problem with the perjury charge, but unfaithfulness alone isn't enough for me to want a politician removed from office.
All in all, I actually really like and respect Mark Sanford. My only beef with him is his initial refusal to accept stimulus funds. I understand and agree with the message he was trying to send, but the people of South Carolina were footing the bill for the stimulus just as much as the rest of the country. He should've simply been vocal about his dissent but accepted the funds.
Do you honestly believe those love letters are real? I agree with you about Clinton. At least Clinton didn't disappear for a weekend to run off to South America to cheat on his wife. He just got a BJ under his desk at work.
Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 1:06 am | #37
Xbox America Staff
This is a staff member of Xbox America
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Ron Burgundy
This user has written 10+ published Xbox America news articles.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
Representin'
This user has given Xbox America some love in his Xbox Live motto.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
There's not one set of morals that all individuals believe in. Infidelity harms the spouse, but Mark Sanford made sure to admit his love of Maria Chapur to his wife. I don't think there's anything inherently immoral in falling in love with someone else.
As for the alleged hypocrisy, I know he reimbursed the state for several thousands that were borderline unacceptable. As a governor, he's undoubtedly and invariably busy. When he has private business, speed and efficiency are pivotal so he can return to public business as soon as possible. Ethics laws like the one preventing officials from using state aircraft for private business are meant to prevent blatant abuse. His use could hardly be classified as such. If you take any governor and put him or her under the scrutiny Sanford has received after his announcement, I'm sure you would find similar results. After his infidelity, people are trying to make a case against him for anything, even where there is no case. It is the nature of the nasty side of politics that cares more about what might incite the public than reality.
As for the alleged hypocrisy, I know he reimbursed the state for several thousands that were borderline unacceptable. As a governor, he's undoubtedly and invariably busy. When he has private business, speed and efficiency are pivotal so he can return to public business as soon as possible. Ethics laws like the one preventing officials from using state aircraft for private business are meant to prevent blatant abuse. His use could hardly be classified as such. If you take any governor and put him or her under the scrutiny Sanford has received after his announcement, I'm sure you would find similar results. After his infidelity, people are trying to make a case against him for anything, even where there is no case. It is the nature of the nasty side of politics that cares more about what might incite the public than reality.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 1:11 am | #38
Xbox America Staff
This is a staff member of Xbox America
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Ron Burgundy
This user has written 10+ published Xbox America news articles.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
Representin'
This user has given Xbox America some love in his Xbox Live motto.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
Quote by IRiSH OH:
Do you honestly believe those love letters are real?
I have yet to hear of anyone questioning the legitimacy of those letters. The State received the letters before there was ever any suggestion of an affair.
Quote by IRiSH OH:
I agree with you about Clinton. At least Clinton didn't disappear for a weekend to run off to South America to cheat on his wife. He just got a BJ under his desk at work.
Since when does distance matter? In my eyes, infidelity for the sake of lust is less virtuous than infidelity for the sake of love.
Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 1:26 am | #40
Xbox America Staff
This is a staff member of Xbox America
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Ron Burgundy
This user has written 10+ published Xbox America news articles.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
Representin'
This user has given Xbox America some love in his Xbox Live motto.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Community Player
This gamer participated in Xbox America's Xbox.com Community Playdate.
You're right. The rest of his family could definitely be emotionally damaged by his infidelity.
Regardless, I am not willing to allow someone's personal life affect my judgement of their performance as a public official.
Regardless, I am not willing to allow someone's personal life affect my judgement of their performance as a public official.
Re: Current Events Thread
08/16/09 3:38 am | #42
Xbox America Friend
This user has donated $1+ to Xbox America.
Burnt Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 25,000 or higher.
Bronze Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 50,000 or higher.
1,000 Posts
This user has written over 1,000 posts. Rock on!
Community Spotlight
This Xbox America member has been featured in the Monthly Community Spotlight.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
Discussion Sparker
This user created a thread which attracted 150 or more replies.
Brain Stormer
This user thought of an idea for a new site feature which was later implemented.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
In local events, my friend: Captain XCSNX just lost a beard growing competition with his friend Exempt Terror. So if you feel like poking fun at his manliness, be my guest 
Re: Re: Current Events Thread
09/14/09 3:29 pm | #44
Burnt Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 25,000 or higher.
Bronze Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 50,000 or higher.
Silver Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 100,000 or higher.
Golden Waffle
This user has achieved a gamerscore of 150,000 or higher.
360Voice Group
This user is a member of Xbox America's group on 360Voice.com.
It Defines Me
This user mentioned Xbox America in his Xbox Live biography.
Sociable
This user introduced himself or herself in the Introduce Yourself forum.
Googler
This user used the Xbox America search bar.
Gamercard Lover
This user has posted one of his or her official Xbox America gamercards on another website.
Quote by BigZuDaddy:
Well, it seems like the Democrat's are backing off a bit from the healthcare reform. Seems like there giving up on the public option.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/16/public-option-wasted-effort-lead-democratic-negotiator-says/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/16/public-option-wasted-effort-lead-democratic-negotiator-says/
The Democrats, my home state Senator Harry Reid in particular, could really use a backbone. Say what you will about Teddy Kennedy, at least we know he had one.
