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Copyright: how far is too far?
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i watched a documentary last week called RiP: A Remix Manifesto, and learned quite a bit more about how our system works. honestly, im pissed. our great country, America, is out there making criminals out of its citizens over rules that CANNOT be enforced. did you know just by humming the tune to "happy Birthday to you" you are now infringing copyright? you officially owe Time Warner some money. pay up bitch tits. if you create a remix of a song, you officially are a criminal and will be prosecuted. time to take a trip to pound town. all these people that say "oh, if you illegally download music you're stealing music from the artist" WRONG! the money you "steal" from the artist, they dont see a penny of. it goes straight to the big time corporations who own the rights to the song. in fact, you can be fined up to $105,000 PER SONG. want to know what i currently owe? multiply $75,000 by 3064. ($229,800,000)

if you copyright something, the copyright lasts your life span +70 years, then it goes to the public domain for anyone to use. currently in the public domain? not Happy Birthday, although the original composers of that song are long dead. but Time Warner still owns the rights, which means it wont ever go to public domain, unless Warner goes under. fat chance. another flaw of Copyright is the patent system. if someone patents a huge block of genes to isolate the cure for cancer, guess who cant use it? NOBODY but the patent holder! our medical field would move forward so fast if the patent system would be revised. say you found the cure for cancer. well like i said, if someone patented a main strain of genes that holds your theory up, your fucked! you cant use it.

there is so much more you can learn that i hardly talked about(i didnt want to burn your eyes more) so feel free to netflix the movie or any other way you want to get ahold of it. RiP: A Remix Manifesto

if you know your a copyright infringer, dont be ashamed. we all need to fight this. we need to force the government to conform to this new era where people expand upon others ideas, without being forced to wait until someone kicks the bucket, or a corporation goes under. take a picture of yourself with this sign and post it!


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As far as the title. I think going to far is when you try to sell the stuff you "stole". I dont think anything should be wrong if its for your enjoyment.

With the way everything is now, I dont think anyone is gonna waste time suing anyone over "Happy Birthday" or the 1000's of artist who've made remixes using other peoples beats.

But this shit is getting ridiculous. Its just so stupid... Even with the millions of people "stealing" music/moves... that artist or actor is still gonna be filthy rich.
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if you copy a CD to your computer, put it on your ipod/mp3/anything else, and take it to someone else's house and they say, "hey, can you put that on my computer", you and your friend are now copyright criminals. this is stupid shit.
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amen to that. this copyright thing is a tad rediculious. I understand owning something and making money, but things like you mentioned are just...sad.

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if you copy a CD to your computer, put it on your ipod/mp3/anything else, and take it to someone else's house and they say, "hey, can you put that on my computer", you and your friend are now copyright criminals. this is stupid shit.



Well yeah, because you've gone from a guy who copied a CD he owned to a music pirate.

Go out and have your own ideas, like the people you want to "piggy back" off of did. Like Detroit said, no one is out suing every family who sings happy birthday. But people spent a lot of time and effort to come up with the songs that you hear, and more time and money to copyright them. It's right that people can just come up and change a few things around and not give them any credit, rights or profits off them? This is why the country is going downhill so fast- our youth doesn't have anything original to offer, they just want to "remix" what's already out there. Blech.



i was using Happy Birthday to make a point. its more than that. and its not just remixing. the guy who was in the movie, Girl Talk, is a mash up atist(someone who takes samples of a lot of songs and makes a song out of them) and he's under fire for that. legally, he's fucked. he cant release a CD even if he wanted to. but what he makes is his OWN idea inspired by that of others, and who said anything about not giving credit? there are people who are proud to say who they sampled. i know if i sampled Meshuggah i would say "fuck yeah, this is a sample from Meshuggah's "Mouth Licking what You've Bled" go listen to the real song if you dont know it". whats wrong with sampling an artist?

EDIT: and if you purchased the CD, doesnt that mean you own the rights to do with the CD as you please? as ignorant as that sounds, IMO it should be that way. you purchased the CD, its yours. the movie also talked about how the government is contemplating putting a "no burn" lock on CDs. so, people who want them on their computers are SOL.
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and if you purchased the CD, doesnt that mean you own the rights to do with the CD as you please? as ignorant as that sounds, it is the way it should be. you purchased the CD, its yours. the movie also talked about how the government is contemplating putting a "no burn" lock on CDs. so, people who want them on their computers are SOL.


No, you don't "own the rights to do with the CD as you please," as you seem to think. By purchasing a CD or a DVD, you purchase the right to listen to the CD and watch the DVD. There's a huge difference.

If I lent a CD that I purchased to a friend, he (legally) has no right and no permission to listen to it. He didn't pay for the CD like I did. It would be the same thing as sneaking your friend into a movie theater. He didn't pay for his right to be there at that time, so why should he have the right to watch?

To recap, when you buy CDs, you buy the right to listen to the songs on said CD. You also buy the right to make copies for back-up purposes, but the second somebody else gets a hold of a copy, it's illegal. It's stealing, so it should be that way.
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and if you purchased the CD, doesnt that mean you own the rights to do with the CD as you please? as ignorant as that sounds, it is the way it should be. you purchased the CD, its yours. the movie also talked about how the government is contemplating putting a "no burn" lock on CDs. so, people who want them on their computers are SOL.


No, you don't "own the rights to do with the CD as you please," as you seem to think. By purchasing a CD or a DVD, you purchase the right to listen to the CD and watch the DVD. There's a huge difference.

If I lent a CD that I purchased to a friend, he (legally) has no right and no permission to listen to it. He didn't pay for the CD like I did. It would be the same thing as sneaking your friend into a movie theater. He didn't pay for his right to be there at that time, so why should he have the right to watch?

To recap, when you buy CDs, you buy the right to listen to the songs on said CD. You also buy the right to make copies for back-up purposes, but the second somebody else gets a hold of a copy, it's illegal. It's stealing, so it should be that way.



but thats the fun part! xD

and look at you mr.right! stand up moral citizen i see.
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haha agreed punchintheeye good ole corrupted america
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i guess you gotta love it. or the south will tell you "if you dont like it, then you can just get out." lol. stereotypes. and Papoose, your sig is blinding me. :p
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haha chaind maybe if people seem my sig they will get blinded and let me catch up to there gs :p
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i can see this happening. Papoose's Preposterous Placebo Pinnacle Plan of Papooseness. it involves underwear. :3

(i just copyrighted that. go think up your own title fucker :cool: )
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