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" The toughest anti-illegal-immigrant measure in a generation passed the Arizona legislature this week. If signed, as expected, by Republican governor Jan Brewer, the law will give local police sweeping new powers in regard to undocumented workers. Currently, immigration offenses are violations of federal, not state, law, and local police officers only can inquire about a person's immigration status if that person is suspected of another crime. Under SB1070, however, Arizona police will have the right to stop anyone on "reasonable suspicion" that they may be an illegal immigrant and can arrest them if they are not carrying a valid driver's license or identity papers.

Passions about illegal immigration run high in Arizona, a point of entry for thousands of undocumented workers going to the U.S. from Mexico, and tensions were heightened by the recent murder of a rancher in a remote border area where illegal crossings are rampant. With 6.6 million residents, Arizona's illegal-immigrant population is estimated to be half a million people. (See the great wall of America on the Mexico border.)

Both proponents and opponents of the law are vociferous. "This criminalizes undocumented status and turns dishwashers, janitors, landscapers and our neighbors into criminals," says Chris Newman, legal director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network. "The bill constitutes a complete disregard for the rights of nonwhites in Arizona. It effectively mandates racial profiling." But state senator Russell Pearce, a Republican, says his bill "will not change a thing for lawful citizens. It simply takes the handcuffs off law enforcement and allows them to do their job. Our legal citizens have a constitutional right to expect protection of federal law against noncitizens. When those laws are not enforced, our citizens are denied equal protection." (Will a biometric Social Security card help the immigration crisis?) All 35 Republicans in the lower Arizona house voted for the bill, while 21 Democrats voted against it. The bill passed the state senate earlier. Law enforcement in the state is split over the legislation, with rank and file supporting the measure and the Association of Chiefs of Police in opposition, saying it could hinder investigations by making the immigrant community hesitant to speak with police.

Appalled at the bill's harsh sweep, immigrant advocates are promising court challenges. "This is the most far-reaching anti-immigration bill in memory and it turns the presumption of innocence on its head," says Alessandra Meetze, executive director of the ACLU of Arizona. "It singles out the failure to carry ID as a reason to believe you are an undocumented alien. What this means is that citizens will need to carry papers with them at all times. It means people like my mother, who has brown skin and an accent, can be arrested and detained until it is confirmed that they are legally in the country."

"This is the most anti-immigrant legislation the U.S. has seen since the House bill of 2005 which set off huge demonstrations across the country," says Newman. "The sheer breadth of this bill is going to alter the national discussion." He says the bill does four things: criminalizes undocumented status, enlists local police in illegal-immigration enforcement, allows citizens to sue police departments if citizens think the police are not being sufficiently vigilant in enforcement and forbids any city from ignoring the state law and becoming a so-called sanctuary zone. "That's before you get to racial profiling," says Newman, "because anyone who looks Latino or has an accent can be swept up, arrested and detained while their immigration status is verified."

Can the law stand up to scrutiny? "There are some things that states can do and some that states can't do, but this law threads the needle perfectly," says Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri–Kansas City School of Law professor who helped write the legislation. He believes it will withstand constitutional challenge. "In the bill, Arizona only penalizes what is already a crime under federal law," says Kobach, a Yale Law School graduate and onetime counsel to former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft. "That constitutes concurrent enforcement in legal terms, which the courts have said is permissible." Says Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative think tank in Washington: "The rhetoric that this bill will create a police state is ridiculous. What this does is give police officers an extra tool in their tool kit."

"Enough is enough," says state senator Pearce, speaking about the increased violence along the Arizona border with Mexico. "One family has been burglarized 18 times and a number of officers have been killed and maimed in the line of duty dealing with illegal immigrants who are criminals. Our message is very clear," says Pearce. "Illegal aliens should find another state besides Arizona to visit." "


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does anyone else think this is a tad bit racist:confused:
i mean i understand the fact they are trying to keep the state safe from criminals crossing the borders. but this to me seems like a bit much.
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lol @ "Our message is very clear," says Pearce. "Illegal aliens should find another state besides Arizona to visit." Cops already pull people over and search and such on reason of suspicion so whats the difference if they throw illegal immigrants into that fold? haha doesnt affect me any

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^^ lol. cops can already pull people over for reason of suspicion already. they do it all the time when people just pull out of bars n such so its not a big deal if now they ask for green card if the person looks shady/illegal lmao
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^^ lol. cops can already pull people over for reason of suspicion already. they do it all the time when people just pull out of bars n such so its not a big deal if now they ask for green card if the person looks shady/illegal lmao



Even though they do do this, they always have a reason - i.e. no blinker for a turn out of the parking lot, no front license plate (in states that apply) and/or another reason that makes their "probable cause" reasonable. If they happen to find something illegal - they win, hands down.
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I think this is easily justified. They come to our country, they should at least come here legally. And LEARN THE FUCKING LANGUAGE FOR GODS SAKE. lol
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I think this is easily justified. They come to our country, they should at least come here legally. And LEARN THE FUCKING LANGUAGE FOR GODS SAKE. lol



+1, seriously. Our official language is almost spanish for christ's sake... Why should we have to learn their fuckin' language if they're here ILLEGALLY!?
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true, but some shady cops pull people over and say o well u have this or this out, when u kno damn well theyre full of shit and the person DIDNT have anything out lol ive had a few friends have that shit happen to em, my one friend was like o really what light? let me get out and see n the cop was like no stay in ur car i think its fine now, it must have just been out for a minute and then let him go...dumb fuckers lol
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true, but some shady cops pull people over and say o well u have this or this out, when u kno damn well theyre full of shit and the person DIDNT have anything out lol ive had a few friends have that shit happen to em, my one friend was like o really what light? let me get out and see n the cop was like no stay in ur car i think its fine now, it must have just been out for a minute and then let him go...dumb fuckers lol



If people are stupid enough to let cops search them illegally and/or stop them for absolutely nothing, it's their fault for being so ignorant and not knowing their rights and/or the laws... If you so happen to mention the phrase, "probable cause" you'll almost always be let off with just a simple warning - cops are always pushing the limits - it's very rare you get charged for something you didn't do. But when it DOES happen it's all over the news and the cop is usually disciplined and or let go.

This is what I'm studying in school by the way, so I happen to know a lot about the subject, lol. Becoming a lawyer is hard... :rofl:

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I agree with this. Illigal alians are taking a jobs that citizens can't have. That's it for me
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I think this is easily justified. They come to our country, they should at least come here legally. And LEARN THE FUCKING LANGUAGE FOR GODS SAKE. lol

+1, seriously. Our official language is almost spanish for christ's sake... Why should we have to learn their fuckin' language if they're here ILLEGALLY!?

Try living here in California. I really want this law passed here. And no, it isn't racist. If you have permission to be here - green card or other proper documentation - welcome. But if they came across our border illegally, they need to be found and escorted out.

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I live in New Mexico and thank God I dont live as far south as the Mexican border cause that shit is carzy you hear about someone being murdered all the time by drug runners, and the thing is once they run their pussy asses back to Mexico they wont be found. I have tons of friends that are hispanic and feel the same way. All it takes is a couple of greedy drug runners to ruin it for all Mexican and other immigrants. I for one am all for this!

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